​​Phillip Wilson - "I can introduce myself. Sometimes here at the Conscious Life Expo, they introduce me so I’ll have to ad-lib it. I’ve known me for a long time, about 70 some years. I grew up as a mathematician. I was very much into creativity and one of my greatest joys as a kid was getting those a-has in solving math problems.

And, now, after having had an out-of-body experience in 1970 and a kundalini experience in 1971, it propelled me into having to fast to maintain functioning in this world. My body became super purified and I became extremely sensitive to anything negative in the world. I had to be very careful. I couldn’t drink anything but pure water. I couldn’t use normal soap. Everything I ate affected me tremendously so I had to eat the purest of the pure. I was almost a fruitarian and it was a wonderful experience.

If you’ve ever read Kierkegaard, Fear and Trembling, he was an existential philosopher. When I read it, I could relate to it and not many people can. So, I went through some really intense purification back in those early days. And, you know, sometimes you just plug into what is required of what you need to do. So, I couldn’t do math after another year. I just couldn’t function doing mathematics. It was no longer fulfilling.

And, Pythagoras was one of the first mathematicians. He’s the one who’s the father of modern mathematics. And, most people don’t realize that another name for Pythagoras was the son of Apollo. In other words, he was a great spiritual master. He had students. He taught them to listen to the five melodies of the spheres, which is the inner sound. He said everything vibrates, everything is number. Numbers are divine realities when you learn the Law of Three. the Law of One, the Law of Two - Duality.

And, here we have the Relax Sauna and I would say the topic of my talk today is Spiritual Purification Using Far Infrared Saunas. And, the subtitle is Being in the Relax Sauna is like Being in the Presence of a Chi Gong Master.
Later on tomorrow from 5 to 5:45, I will be giving a talk on Chi Gong energy and far infrared saunas. So, I don’t have to hold that paper anymore.

In my journey into inner awareness, one learns that a purified body makes it much easier for you to contact that part of your self within you that’s connected to all of life. This to me is sort of like the secret. I like what Swami Beyondananda says about that. He says, "There’s no key to the universe. That’s the bad news. The good news is it’s not locked." And, so, basically, I would say that the Relax Sauna helps you unlock that connection. You know, and it’s that real connection you want to get in tune with that helps you rise above all the beliefs and all the programming you were born with, that you brought in from other life lifetimes.


You know, I like to say that there’s nothing I believe and there’s nothing I don’t believe. In other words, when you believe something, it means you don’t know something. And, I don’t like to not know. And, I know that in all my knowingness, I know all. Sometimes, I’m just not aware of it. That’s just my problem. And, that’s something that we all need to resolve. I would love to be able to, you know, in a sense when you finally accept that everything is perfect and everything is doing OK, acceptance is a key.
I used to say reason comes after the fact. That means when you finally embrace what is happening, you except what is. And, you don’t complain about what isn’t or what wasn’t. Then, it’s just a question of time before you understand. Because you’re not blocking the understanding because you’re not in denial of what it is. So, this is what I am all about.


I am, actually, writing a book called Pictures of the Mind. The subtitle is Freeing Yourself from Beliefs That No Longer Serve You. And, you know, one needs to get in touch with one’s beliefs and look at the pictures you’re looking at. You know, there are unconscious pictures that are controlling you. I was telling someone a couple of years ago that you are a slave to your beliefs. There's also...  She was, "Huh. I don’t know if I can buy that." Oh, well. Ii’s not for sale. It’s free. There is a book called Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton who I've met a number of times. He grew up with a good friend of mine.
And, basically, when you believe something every cell in your body acts as if it’s true. Now, if you look at the word belief, in the English language, it’s very humorous. You know, I like to jokingly say, "I can prove that every belief is a lie because how do you spell belief? B-E-L-I-E-F. And, believe is also B-E-L-I-E-V-E. Every time you believe something, just remember it’s temporary. It’s not true. It’s a lie. It’s a stepping stone to get you to the diving board and then you jump off into the abyss." And, then, after you jump off into the abyss, it’s sort of scary. And, finally you just accept it.


And, there’s a force, like a winged Pegasus, which comes and picks you up and surfs you into, like, the vortex. You know, every time you go through the vortex and you’re burnt to a crisp. And, then, you come out on the other side, pure to what you are. See, you exist as the soul. There is no time and space. There is no time and space. And, the beliefs are just mock-ups. You know you create your own universe. It’s all made up. You make it u. You make the rules. You make all the laws. And, this is hard to accept.
But, you don’t have to accept it. In time, it’s your destiny to recognize this. So, I’m into realization, real rather than believing. Like real eyes, don’t conceptualize. Lies, again and that word lie is like an antithesis to realizing and knowing this. So, I will get into far infrared ray energy pretty soon and the saunas. But, this is coming through now because this is important for what I feel the world needs to hear. And, it’s part of the book that I’m writing. And, I’m excited to present this information now. And, then relate it all to the spiritual purification that happens when you get into the Relax Sauna.

See, Pythagoras was a spiritual master. He taught spirituality through mathematics. That was the art. Socrates said there's a purification of the soul, again the word, purification, that happens when you do mathematics. Now, mathematics, at the time, was divided into four classes, figures in motion, figures at rest, numbers in motion and numbers at rest. The numbers in motion is called harmony or music. Who would have believed that music is an aspect of mathematics? Figures in motion is called stereometry which is another name for astrology and astronomy. And, figures that rest is called geometry. And, numbers at rest is called numerology.

So, these are the four aspects of mathematics, the divine realities of the music of the spheres. When you go into the Relax Sauna, magic happens. Water molecules are far-infrared molecules. Human bodies are far-infrared energies. When we find an energy that resonates, it’s the same energy as us. It magnifies us. When we go into The Relax Sauna, or any far-infrared sauna or any infrared sauna in general, it generates an energy that resonates with the water molecules in your body, it resonates with all the human cells in your body and, again, it’s a connection. It connects you to that. It’s a special kind of energy. The Relax Sauna Company, for example, it took them 10 years, 10 years to figure out how to filter out the near-infrared and the mid-infrared and all of the energies that are not the far-infrared that resonate with your cells in your body.

Any infrared sauna is helpful and beneficial, but the percentage of the far-infrared ray, the more far-infrared ray you can get in the sauna, the more effective it is. The Relax Sauna Company in Taiwan, I think around 1976 or 7 or 8, it took them 10 years to figure out from 10 years before, you discover a way to get that filtration system working through a semiconductor chip technology and generate about 98% pure far Infrared ray energy.

And, when that energy hits you, it’s magical. There’s a book called the Fourth Phase of Water by Gerald Pollock. He has a video on YouTube and he said, accidentally, in his laboratory, they found out that the fourth phase of water, I forget the name they called it, but it’s a special kind of water that’s on the border of water, on the boundary of it and it’s activated by light, because they noticed there is more of it when the lamp was shining on it. And, then, they did a lot of research on it, on infrared in particular, especially far-infrared energy resonates with the water stronger. It has more of an effect.

So, when this energy, this is energy medicine… Would somebody like to get into the sauna now? Go on in and Enoch will put you in. And, we do this at every talk I give and people get to experience it and you get to see, second hand, the wow, the a-has. Something's very special. You take off your shoes, please. So, it any rate, I will continue.


So, the energy coming out of the far infrared sauna, or the Relax Sauna specifically, resonates with the water molecules. So, with this resonating of the water molecules, okay, resonating, that means it’s shaking because, according to Gerald Pollock in his book, there’s an energy part of the cell. I believe it’s called the mitochondria, that are especially receptive to the energy, the far-infrared energy, and it energizes the cell.


The mitochondria create energy because the light is transformed to help the cell move. And, you have the movement of the water molecules, the movement or the pulsation of the water molecules. You have water, two hydrogens and an oxygen. The oxygen is the vortex of the angle, the hydrogen is on the other side, so that angle of the pulsation of the water molecule gets smaller.
Audience Member - Are you saying the angle vibrates?


Phillip - Yes, the whole water molecule vibrates. And, that causes the angle to get smaller


Audience Member - You mean it's vibrating across an average angle that is smaller? Normally, it's about 105 degrees.


Philip - Right.

Audience Member - So, you're saying it's vibrating around a midpoint that's less than 5.75?

Phillip - Yes, that's my understanding. I could be wrong but, all I know is that, for some reason, the research says that the angle gets smaller and I got a degree in mathematics. And, it's like, when you test EMF in any kind of the electromagnetic frequencies, it’s always going to fluctuate because it’s a change. And, so, that’s why, when we discuss electromagnetic frequencies, we'll get into that same concept of changing up and down. But, that's a very good point to point out.

Well, the mitochondria create ATP and nitric oxide and the energy of the cell absorbs the far-infrared light and it causes the cell to create energy. And, so, all your cells are energized by the pulsating of all the water molecules.


Audience Member - So, it's improving the performance of the mitochondria?


Phillip - Well, in a sense it is. Yes, because the mitochondria now create more ATP than they normally would. It catalyzes your whole body and that’s why, when you’re describing what the lamp did to you, the little 250 W lamp, or the 200 W lamp, that’s the catalyzing of your cells. And, like, it’s very magical. And, that's why I say there’s like a spiritual purification that happens because it just doesn’t cleanse you physically. And, it also activates the parasympathetic nervous system which sort of tunes you into the emotional and mental energies inside the body. Because, all the bodies, the mind and the emotions, and the physical body are all interconnected. They are all...
See, there is no space and time. Remember, we were taught that in physics? There is no space and time. There’s only now. And, the mental body or the mind is interwoven with the emotional body and the physical body so they are all sort of half-connected. You know, it’s, like, it’s in time and space, all our bodies are connected and we, as a soul have, just like when we go into a car, our bodies go into a car, our bodies, we put clothes on and then we go into a ca. And, the car, we put it in a garage. It’s like, you know, we wear these bodies.

So, the soul has a mind we take on. We take on an emotional body and we take on a physical body. And it’s the same analogy that was us putting on clothes and going into a car and going into a garage. And, these protect us, you know. And, right now we live in a very, very, very polluted world. I like to say, back in the 1960s, normal Finnish saunas were great. They cleansed and purified you, you sweated. Hippocrates said, and also, so did Parmenides, they are both attributed to having said this, maybe they both did, maybe they didn’t. These are ancient Greeks and what they said is that “Find me a way to create sweat or a fever and I will cure disease.”
So, take Hippocrates and put him in the United States of America and get him on a street corner saying that and he will be put in jail because the only thing you can cure legally in the United States, I think, is beef. Because you can not cure things because it’s against the law for some reason. But, in reality, what we want to do is we want to route out the core belief that you believe, that you are a slave to, that is affecting your body, that is affecting your behavior. In other words, all your behavior is a reflection of your belief system.

So, if you can become aware of the pictures in your head and pictures in your mind, if you can become aware of them, you know, in massage therapy classes, they say that there’s an issue in your tissue. When you have a pain, it’s related to a picture that’s the issue in your tissue. All post-traumatic stress syndrome is a non-acceptance of what just happened. It’s not being able to totally embrace the here and now. And, some of it, it’s hard to embrace, you know, the horrors of war or just anything that’s horrendous that happened in your life. So, there’s many shades of gray, of everything that ever happened in your life where you reacted and you couldn’t totally accept.

And, so, when you can’t totally embrace something, it creates a picture and an issue. And, those are all things like, if you look at all your past lives, they say, I don’t know this from personal experience, but they say it’s like a deck of playing cards. And, one card will stick out more. It’s like, I won’t say I have tooth problems but, a lot of times, when I eat food, you get stuff caught in your teeth and you finally get something out of this part of your teeth and then fall all of a sudden, wow, there’s another issue in another part of the teeth. And, so, when you read past lives there’s always an issue that’s the most important. If you go to a holistic health conference, a functional medicine conference, you go to the exhibit hall, they always have some kind of a machine that says, “Oh, you have all these issues. And, this one is way bigger or way more pronounced.”

So, you always have issues in your life. See, there is no beginning and there is no end. There’s something I experienced the other day and it’s profound. Experiencing it is different from knowing it and believing it. OK? But, it’s like, you finally realize if there is no end, this is going to go on forever and ever. And, it’s hell until we finally realize that we just have to enjoy the moment. And, once you enjoy the moment. Then, there’s another moment and then, there’s another moment and each moment is full of joy. And, that’s all you do throughout eternity. You just enjoy the moment. And, in time, you become freer and freer and freer.

And, it’s like, you know, you can’t ever have what you want and that’s because when you want something, become aware of the picture you’re looking at. The picture is showing yourself not having it. So, that’s what you’re going to get. You get what you picture.

So, you have to recognize, you just have to go on as if you have it and be already grateful for having it. You trick it by being grateful of the having of it, because there is no time and space anyway.

Who, now, would like to go into the Relax Sauna? There's always 6 or 7. It's your turn. Go on in. Yes, tell me what happened when you got in the Relax Sauna. How do you feel? Lighter. Yeah. Well, you know, it is funny because it is invisible light energy so it would make sense you feel lighter. That's why people lose weight because they feel lighter after they get out. It’s almost like a euphoric, a touch of euphoria. It’s the beginning stages of euphoria. Yeah, in an hour, all of a sudden, you'll say, “Gee. I feel...”

We had some guy come into our store, the Momentum98 Health Store in Columbus, Ohio. Some guy came in. He’d been at one of the shows. He went in. It was nice. And. he went in. His friend got in. And, I finally said “Why don’t you go in? He said, “Well, I've been in before. Yeah, I’ll go in.” He went in for seven minutes just like you. Then he went walking. It was the farmer's market. He came back 20 minutes later and said, “I cannot believe how good I feel!” And, he bought it.

See, people say, "I don’t understand it. I feel more energized and yet, I feel more relaxed. " And, they think that’s an oxymoron. But, what happens is, see, most of us when we do coffee, I don’t drink coffee for 50 years after being a coffee addict. When I started, I was age 12, from 12 to 20. I quit, 5 cups a day, that was my max. And, I’ve been coffee free for 50 years. In eighth grade, I did four cigarettes. One day, and the way I felt in my tummy, I don’t ever wanna feel that again. In my head, between a tummy ache and a headache, It wasn’t worth it. Everyone else in my family smokes and I didn’t.

Now, there was a time when I was against smoking. But, there’s a famous quote by Paul Twitchell. “Being for or against anything exiles you from the God-consciousness state.” And, actually, that’s the poetic version. You know, it’s the attachment of being for or against. And, I’ve mellowed this down. I’ve changed it a little bit for the general public. Being for or against anything locks you into duality. See, when you’re locked into duality, then you have no freedom. I don’t believe in anything and there’s nothing I don’t believe. I have to be detached from it. You see, you try real hard and then you give up. And, then, it comes to you. But, you have to have that effort that you put out. That’s the chutzpah, whatever. And, then, you finally get frustrated and you say, “I don’t care anymore,” And, just live your life. And, then, it happens.

See, that’s the process, that's what the whole Law of Attraction is all about. In the book, Dialogue with the Master, Paul Twitchell says, “At first, there is the pure desire. Then, you get attached. And, finally, when you let go of your attachment, then your pure desire comes to you You experience it. It’s the wanting. It’s the clinging. Oh, those terrible words, clinging and wanting. But, that’s part of the process. See, what most people don’t realize is, they’re all confused,.

There are eight phases of the moon, OK? And, people are saying this is the way it is. Yeah, that’s the way it is when you live in the third phase of the moon. But, when you live in the sixth phase of the moon, you don’t want to do that. I’m just using the sixth phase and third phase randomly but everyone says something. And, yes, there’s a process. When I give you directions and I say, go to the street light. Turn right and then two blocks later, turn left. You say, wait a second. You told me to turn right and now you’re telling me to turn left. That contradicts. I said, “Well, in time and space,, it’s not a contradiction. In no-time space, it is a contradiction. You know, Aristotelian logic says "P and not-P cannot be true. You can’t have a statement and the opposite of the statement true at the same time. But, at different times, you can.

So, that sort of like and, incidentally, you know, we’re going to be talking about far infrared ray energy. I have another, probably I hope, at least another hour or 45 minutes left. People, there’s so much confusion about far infrared energy right now in this world. It is like, “Oh. my gosh, the political system in the world, it’s a little crazy!” And, the whole idea is like, I'm presenting the Relax Sauna. I’m giving our history. I’m saying we have 1000 testimonies on YouTube. I've put over 100,000 people in the Relax Sauna


And, you know, what does far infrared do? I started to talk about that and that’s the way I talk. It’s like, I jump around and then I get distracted, but it’s not really a distraction. I call it guided because eventually, I’m going to come around full circle. And, everything that I’ve ever talked about at the beginning of this talk will come full circle and you’ll be able to understand it. And, this is the way my learning technique that comes through me that I’ve learned works for me, And, I’ve been like this all my life. And, people used to complain sometimes when I used to teach mathematics.
How was that? Nice. And it’s legal in all 50 states. Yeah, do you still feel good? Do you feel better or nothing yet? Yeah, well, sometimes when you’re walking, all of a sudden, you feel better. But, it’s a beautiful experience. So, how do you feel? Yeah, how did you feel before? Good. Yeah. Yeah. Thankful, relaxing, healing, yeah. Do you know why it’s called the Relax Sauna? Because it relaxes you. Yeah, it took me 10 years of promoting that. When I asked the person who came out of the sauna, how do you feel? Relaxed. The next woman came out of the sauna. How do you feel? Relaxed. Next woman comes out of the sauna. How do you feel? Relaxed. And, I said, “Oh my gosh!”


Audience Member - It went on for 10 years before you figured it out?

Phillip - Yeah, I’m slow!


So, it’s called the Relax Sauna. And, that’s what I was saying earlier. It activates the parasympathetic nervous system, more so than any other sauna because what it does, it’s pulsating the water molecules because it’s resonating with them. It’s activating the mitochondria to create ATP and nitric oxide, energizing the cell.

So, because the water molecules were pulsating, the water molecules we talked about get smaller. And, so, if the water molecules and, hence the blood cells, which are comprised mainly of water, get smaller, what’s going to happen to the blood circulation?

Yeah, that’s another thing that it does. It oxygenates the cells and the oxygen in the body will kill the pathogens and the anaerobic bacteria. That’s another factor. Yes, it gets reactivated. Well, see, what happens is if you increase the core temperature of the body through… See, if you have 100 people in a small room dancing, it’s going to get hot. If you have all your water molecules pulsating, your body temperature is going to get hot.

That’s why Hippocrates and Parmenides said, "find me a way to create sweat or a fever and I will cure disease." So, for your body, it’s one of the best things in the world. You know, they say there’s, like, a dichotomy. The nutrition people say nutrition is very very important. And then, the exercise buffs say, exercise is important. Well, far infrared energy is, actually, what it causes in the body is movement. Exercise is a subset of movement. It’s not exercise which is important. It is the movement of the cells and the movement of the cells in detoxifying the body and cleansing the body, activating the whole lymphatic system of the body, to detoxify the body. That makes it easier for you to absorb nutrients now.

So, you need the nutrients that can now be absorbed because before, when the mercury was in the body, and that’s where the magnesium belongs, but, the mercury was there, so you get the mercury out. And, now, you can absorb nutrients, So. you need movement. You need the lymphatic system to be activated.


With normal saunas, it's just the heat on the outside. The far-infrared, actually, penetrates 1-3/4 to 2 inches into the body and that pulsates the water molecules and, basically, activates every cell in the body. It increases the core temperature. It’s like BenGay, you feel the deep penetrating of the warmth. You go out on a hot day or a cold day, you’ve got a winter coat on a cold day, the sun is really hot and you close your eyes and, “Oh, it feels so good.“ Inside your body, you can feel the deep penetrating warmth going through your winter coat to your core. That’s what this feels like.
Now, you know, turtle eggs, they hatch. Snake eggs, they hatch.  Well, how did they hatch? They’re in sand. The far infrared energy goes through the sand and resonates with the water in turtle eggs or snake eggs and causes the embryo to get warm and grow and activate and grow into a turtle or a snake. I like to say that chickens cheat. They lie on the eggs and it’s the far-infrared energy from the chicken's body that causes the water cells to resonate. When you hug someone, you can feel their far infrared energy. That’s the warmth you feel. It’s not heat. It’s the resonating energy. You know, when you see someone from maybe 30 away whom you feel very fond of, whom you haven’t seen in a while, you feel this tingling sensation, you feel this whatever? That’s a resonating energy. That is, you can feel the far-infrared energy coming from them.

We are far-infrared energy emitters. We only emit far-infrared energy. We only absorb far infrared energy. Water is the same. Water does not absorb near-infrared energy. OK. If near-infrared... you know, people say, “Well, I  have a near-infrared energy machine, a lot of the sauna companies are saying, “OK, let’s get a near-infrared red light or a near-infrared light.” So, they are doing far-infrared and, now, near-infrared and they are thinking,


Well, the whole idea is the more far-infrared that you have, the more it's going to resonate and detoxify your body. So, if you’re going to detoxify yourself, physically, emotionally and mentally and hence, have spiritual purification, the more far-infrared you have, the more effective the sauna can be.
And, there’s a man who’s a little concerned about the EMF but he does say, on many of his YouTube videos, “The more far-infrared ray you have in the sauna, that’s what you want.” And, that’s my experience. Because only the far-infrared resonates the water molecules because the water molecules vibrate at 8 microns. The human cells vibrate around 9.4 microns. So if you can get between 4 and 14  microns, in astrology they call it, it’s conjunct. You know, like when the sun is conjunct the moon. You know, it resonates and so it makes it stronger.

So, the far-infrared energy coming at us resonates with our cells. It does five things. It pulsates the water molecules, increases core temperature, it mobilizes the lymphatic system. It increases microcirculation, activates the parasympathetic nervous system and gets the mitochondria to generate ATP and nitric oxide. And, all those things cause the body to cleanse and purify.

Infrared, you have the sun generates energy. Okay, it generates ultraviolet, cosmic rays, x-rays, gamma rays, infrared rays. Now, infrared can be divided into near - closer to visible light, mid - next,  and then far. And, far is from between 4 microns to 1000 microns.


And, then you have the microwaves. Now, a microwave device, (He reaches for his cell phone.) this, in some way, causes damage to the cells of the body. Now, they say that microwave ovens, for many years they say microwave ovens are something that you want to be aware of. You don’t want to be too close to your TV screen. So, microwave energy is something that, according to this guy at the Psychotronic‘s Conference and we have a YouTube video on him, he says the cell phone generates microwave energy.

And, like when I was talking to Dr. Klinghart and, basically, what this guy says, I forget his name but I have about a 5- minute interview, He has a sauna, a Relax Sauna he loves. He’s had it for 14 years. He talks about how it helped his dad a lot, as well. But, the microwave energy, it’s not a really healthy energy. And, it’s way different than household appliance energy. You’re not afraid of your household appliances.
How many people ask when they get a refrigerator, well, what’s the EMF of my refrigerator? What’s the EMF of my video recorder? What’s the EMF of my computer? You know, But then, all of a sudden, there's a big thing. And, yes, there are some people sensitive to EMF but the key is far infrared energy. And, the more you have of it, it antidotes the damage of the previous damage you’ve had from being exposed to nuclear radiation, to microwave radiation. And, some people, I mean a jackhammer, that’s not microwave but that's, to me, very irritating. You know, you listen to a jackhammer and some people in their work, you know, maybe they work at a steel mill or something and there’s heavy industry, and you come home and you’re a little rattled. Then you go into the Relax Sauna and you’re better.

I mean every one of you who came in there felt better after coming out of the Relax Sauna. The Relax Sauna undoes the damage of being in a polluted world. Now, when you can get rid of the pollution in your body, in your physical body, now, why would you think that the emotional body and the mind which are intertwined with your physical body in this world of space and time, remember, you exist outside of time and space but you have a body and the purification that happens with you when your emotional body is in the present, why do you think there wouldn’t be the same kind of cleansing emotionally?

The relaxing, you see, when you activate the parasympathetic nervous system and get out of fight-or-flight mode, and get into being-in-the-zone mode, and, then, you have the perspective, it cleanses you emotionally. When you get out of flight-or-fight mode and you get into the zone where then, there you are, right there where are you can just sit and relax and bask in the presence of being in the womb, of being hugged by your loving grandma, basking in divine love, of being in the presence of a great spiritual being who does not judge you, who totally accepts you, then you feel tuned in and cleansed. And, that’s the purification.

And then, that’s the state you want to go into. Now, when you go in here and you experience the state, there’s a lady who has a $5000 wooden sauna and she was at a mental health conference in Integrative Mental Health about a year and a half ago, And, she came down in her bathing suit and she got in the Relax Sauna. And, after in her bathing suit for 30 minutes and had a nice sweat, she came back about an hour later and says, “Phil, after about 8 to 10 minutes in the Relax Sauna, I experienced the most profound, deepest relaxation that I’ve ever had in my life!” And, she’s had a wooden infrared sauna, a good one, one of the best, for five years.

There’s something special that goes on. We have about 5 or 6 or 7 videos on YouTube where one lady said that her heart, she could feel it instantly in her heart, where her heart was radiating. Her heart was radiating instantly because she, some people are more aware. See, the more aware you are spiritually, we go to these conferences like the Conscious Life Expo here, we come into a lot of people who have either come into this lifetime, you know, from all their past lives they’ve done or have had to remember all this and have been trained in this lifetime to be sensitive to the frequencies of this world, when they come into the Relax Sauna, 90% of them, you can’t get everyone, you know, but 90% of them say, “Oh, my gosh, I can’t believe this energy!”


See, again, “They can’t believe.” In other words, it goes beyond their belief system. It’s an anomaly because it feels good. In other words, it gets you when you feel good, when everything you ever believed, when you feel good are you worrying about what you believe? When you’re feeling tuned in, you’re not even thinking about it. You’re just enjoying the moment, you’re in the moment. This time, there’s only one moment. That’s now.
People a lot of times say "You only have one lifetime, so you have to enjoy it now." Well, no, there’s only one moment and you need to enjoy it. It doesn’t matter whether you have 1000 lifetimes or one lifetime, in every moment it’s to be enjoyed. I don’t believe in drudgery. I don’t believe in guilt. Those things take you out of the moment. This gets you into the moment. That’s why spiritual purification happens, by being able to get into the moment.


And, in all of the pinnacle of my health food store that I’ve had since 1980 in Columbus, Ohio called Momentum98 Natural Health Store, we’ve had it there since 1980 and I’m into superfoods, spirulina, chlorella, blue-green algae, Chinese mushrooms, Chinese herbs, Ayruvedic herbs, all these wonderful products, oxygen products, ozone, you name it, all these wonderful different kinds of products you can use, this, the Relax Sauna is the pinnacle of all the products I’ve ever sold to help you get into the moment.


And, the magic happens when you can get into the moment. And, I don’t know anything that gets you into the moment as quickly as the Relax sauna does. You can go into any other wooden sauna, any other portable sauna and it takes you between 5 and 20 minutes to 30 to 40 minutes to feel what the Relax Sauna does in 30 seconds.
And, you start sweating in 8 minutes in the Relax Sauna and usually, it's 20 minutes. When you have to preheat for 20 or 30 minutes, it’s usually 30 or 40 minutes before you start sweating in any other sauna. Now, all the saunas are good. Dr. Sherri Roger’s, in her book, Detoxify or Die, talked about all the wonders. If you go into these portable saunas you get people who rave about it. Well, if you’ve been driving a bicycle all your life and you get into a Ford Pinto you’re going to be totally amazed and tell all your friends how wonderful it is. When you go into a Mercedes, you're gonna say, the Ford Pinto was nice but the Mercedes was incredible.

How was that, young lady? Beautiful, yeah. So, you get the outside heat of the heat and you have the inside, it’s like a flower blooming. It’s coming from within and you start generating more and more. Yeah, good. I guess you can over drink water. Some lady drank too much water and died in Seattle but… The main contraindication of it is dehydration. So, I drink about 12 ounces of water before I go in every morning. And, after I get out, I’ll drink about 12 or 16 ounces more. On spa day for Phil, that’s about a special kind of thing. It’s called spa day for Phil, that’s my name. I go in for 20 minutes. I go out and, in after a sweat, do the water. Then I either I take a shower or I wait for three or four minutes. I go back in and do another 20-minute sweat. And, then, I do it a third time. And I feel like I’ve been at the spa for nine hours. I feel good. I feel incredible.


I feel invigorated. And, so, this is one of the finest, I mean, “Oh my gosh, it feels so good.” And, you feel so cleansed, and so tuned in and so much in the now. See, it's when you get into the now, and the more you learn in to get in the now and the present moment and to embrace the present moment and totally enjoy it, that’s the spiritual purification that goes on. And, it’s life-transforming. It’s life-transforming physically, emotionally and mentally. It’s unbelievable how many people, you know, feel so much better.
Because you’re getting to experience what she was experiencing and raving about and you had no clue. Thank you, thank you, yeah. That’s exactly how it works. It’s like, you know, how do you describe the Relax Sauna? Well, it’s like a cross between five things. You are basking in divine love, you're being hugged by your loving grandma, you’re in the womb, you’re on a beach in Hawaii or you’re in the presence of a Chi Gong master or a great guru. And, it feels very good and I’ve had a good time talking about the Relax Sauna. And, about what makes it so special, and about far infrared energy in general and what it does for you. And, like I said, I’ve been using it for almost 18 years almost every morning. It puts a cup of coffee to shame in the morning. It puts a hot tub to shame at midnight on a full moon outside. It’s very therapeutic. It’s been really, really very therapeutic.

Well, you know, if you have a diabetic ulcer or there’s a lady who had Mrsa, there’s one lady who had bought a Relax Sauna from us and was promoting a $37,000 kind of sauna. And, but she said, "I bought your lamp and used it on my mom, er, my grandma. And, she had Mrsa and she had a deep wound and eight months of antibiotics couldn’t do a thing for the Mrse, Bu. five weeks of using the lamp on the Mrsa, got rid of the Mrsa and got rid of the wound."

There’s a doctor in New Jersey who raves about how it has helped diabetes. If you have diabetes, then one thing that you want to be aware of is that you may not need as much insulin. I would suspect that you will find your health will improve and miracles can happen using the Relax Sauna. You’re going to see, that’s right.


There is a one-year warranty on the Relax Sauna, but don’t let that fool you. We have many people on the Internet, on YouTube videos who say they’ve had this Relax Sauna 12, 13, 15, 16 years. You know, we say it will work. It’ll last five or seven years in a clinical setting but many people report it lasts a lot longer. We are very pleased with it. It’s made in Taiwan. It was the company in Taiwan is over 40 years old. it’s an electrical company. A Japanese company says, “Can you find an energy that will generate Chi like in the Hot Springs in southern Japan.” And, they said, “Sure.” 10 years later, they had the a-ha. And, that’s why the Relax Sauna uses that radiator, the two double radiators that your feet are near and this is not carbon panels.
The guy who wrote on reddit.com said that he tested out an Amazon sauna for $200 and found out it only increased core temperature a half degree. He got a $500 Amazon sauna, a portable one that was touted to be one of best. No difference. He got the Relax Sauna and it not only replicated, but it exceeded the expectations. It increased core temperature 3.2° There is a doctor, Paul Anderson, who has a cancer clinic in Seattle. He can increase core temperature 4.2°, putting people in the Relax Sauna during cancer IV therapy.

How's that feel? "I feel great. I really do" The lamps will work. Many people use them for getting rid of pain and inflammation Pick up the literature. There’s more literature at the booth. I didn’t bring you the 24-page booklet. It’s at boot 407. I’m going to conclude my talk, you know, in about 30 seconds. Thank you. Thank you for showing up.
The Relax Sauna is the $2000 sauna. It is not a $200 for a $500 Amazon sauna. It is not an $850 sauna. They all use carbon panels. Some use stones as well, but they do not have the Relax Sauna energy, the Relax Sauna generators. They cannot do you what the Relax Sauna does. The Relax Sauna will antidote EMF more than any other sauna because it’s got about 5 to 9 times more far-infrared ray than any other sauna. It's got a one-year warranty. Everyone who gets the Relax Sauna, not everyone, but most people are more than pleased. And, I have had dozens of people come to me and say it’s the best investment where the health they have ever made. And, this includes many functional medicine doctors.

So, thank you. Thank you very much for attending. My name is Phil Wilson. My cell phone is 626-200-8454. My email is phil@relaxsaunas.com. RelaxSaunas.com  If you have any questions, call me, email me or go to the website. Thank you very much for attending. Did you enjoy the talk?


"Yes! Great presentation! Yeah, it was fun! It definitely was!"

Like I said, I was very interested in wanting to know what would come out of my mouth.

Part ll

And, there was a guy who did a study on reddit.com, published in February 2017. He says it's a review of the Relax Sauna. He went ahead, there’s a lot of research on far infrared saunas since the 60s. Hundreds, at least dozens, of articles showing that far-infrared will have a lot of benefits. OK, so he says, “OK, let me get $200 Amazon sauna and see if it works. And, they have carbon panels all around the sauna. And, they don’t have a nylon tent. They have some other kind of tent and, unfortunately, they have corrugated plastic holding up their tents because it’s designed a little differently than the Relax Sauna which has the pop-up tent that keeps it sturdy and, then, it has poles. So, they have corrugated plastic in there which may be BPA free, but not necessarily BPS free.


But, you know, it’s not so much the toxins that may be in the plastic, because the far-infrared undoes the damage. You know like the carpet in there is more dangerous than the nylon in the Relax Sauna. People wear gym shorts, gym sweats, they’re all made out of nylon and they sweat in them and they get hot and then they say, “Well, that’s nylon.” Yeah, you’ve got paint in the room. You have…  we live in a toxic world.
OK, according to the research on far-infrared, especially out of Japan, far-infrared energy antidotes the ill effects of nuclear energy, sunburn and electromagnetic frequencies, commonly called EMF. Now, every household appliance generates electromagnetic frequencies. Anything that you plug into the wall has electricity in it. So, all far-infrared energy is electromagnetic frequency. But, see, there are people who write books, people who write articles and some people will go on the websites and have podcasts.

They say many many things. Again, we talked about beliefs. See. And, people blindly puppet what other people say. And, therefore, they have these fear pictures in their head and, you know, the Harry Potter series, you know, when you say the word Voldemort, everyone says, “Oh my gosh, Voldemort" Well, I like to say Voldemort’s little brother’s name is EMF.

We were at conference in New York, the Creative Health Symposium for Medical Doctors. And, there was another sauna down the road from us, I mean, like maybe 500 feet away. And, they said, “Oh, that sauna has dangerous EMF!” And, one lady who bought two saunas said, "I don’t want any EM in my sauna!” We finally... Dr. Apkinar was at my booth. He wrote the book No Sweat Know Sweat, The Definitive Guide to Reclaim Your Health. This man is an amazing young man. He’s younger than me so, therefore, he’s young. There he is at an Indian sweat lodge. There’s also an Amazon sweat lodge with a picture of him. He’s a cancer doctor in New York City. He was voted Best Cancer Doctor a few years ago back in New York City, Best Cancer Doctor in New York. He does a very novel, unique... he’s in Little Neck, New York. Contact him. Look him up on Google. He has probably helped to sell about 200 Relax Saunas to his patients and many others.


He calls the Relax Sauna the Chi Gong Sauna. He’s a Chi Gong Master. He’s a medical doctor. He’s an oriental medical doctor. He's an acupuncturist and a holistic dentist so he got a long litany of… And, he’s also created some kind of Spiritual Science Institute where they train people to do what they do. And, he’s very wise, a very good man and he has results. He gets results with his cancer patients. He’s a great man, Dr. Bill Apkinar. He’s Turkish descent and we have a 15-min video of him on YouTube or a 17-minute video.


Dr. James Onnikian workes with him. We have a 15-minute video. He was a world champion kickboxer about 10, 15 years ago. Dr. James Onnikian bought ten saunas from me about 15 years ago. He still has them. He has a yoga studio in Hawaii. They used the Relax Saunas in the yoga studio. And, again, the more aware a person is and if they get their beliefs out of the way, the more likely they are to totally fall in love and recognize the benefits of the Relax Sauna. And, I’ll say, for lack of a better word, the superiority of it because of the amount of the far-infrared it generates.
I know there’s a guy from Orlando who’s got a podcast. And, he says, "You want as much far infrared energy in your sauna and that’s how to measure the effectiveness of a sauna.” So, it's part of the process.

There are many, many doctors and we go to a lot of holistic health conferences. This lady named Rebecca Harder, she has hyperbaric oxygen chambers in her colon therapy clinic. It’s the most beautiful pristine clinic you could imagine. Everything‘s made out of beautiful wood. She used to have wooden saunas in there. As a matter of fact, she still does. But, she would go to the Colonics shows or conferences for 10 years and she would simply snub her nose every time she saw the Relax Sauna. And, finally, after 10 years, she thought, ”Oh, what the hell, I’ll try it.” And, she went in and in three minutes she was sold on the Relax Sauna because she could feel the difference in the energy coming out of the Relax Sauna compared to the 4 or $5000 wooden saunas that she’d been using and promoting for years.

She’s got 8 pages on the Relax Sauna in this book, along with about 4 or 5 other pages on far-infrared energy besides that. This is an incredible compilation. It's got all this information. It’s got articles, compilations, but it’s more than that. It’s got information on hyperbaric oxygen chambers, ozone. Anyway, it’s got good information, a lot of articles all about different aspects of holistic science. It’s got a couple of articles on vaccines. What to do when someone doesn’t like vaccines? You know, thinks vaccines are good and how to protect yourself from them and all sorts of stuff. But, anyway, she’s probably sold, we allow certain health practitioners to sell the Relax Sauna to their clients and to promote it. And, anyway, she is a strong believer in the Relax Sauna and says there’s no comparison. She doesn’t say that but she says that the Relax Sauna is the most effective sauna and she recommends it to, I guess, about 80 to 90% of her clients.

She’s in Portland and her name is Rebecca Harder. Great book. While I’m talking about books well, there’s a lot of people who... There’s a guy named, I think, Scott Templeton. And, there’s a famous author, Ann Louise Gittleman. I have testimonies from Ann Louise Gittleman who’s quite famous. Back in the 60s, she wrote a book called Guess Who Came to Dinner? talking about parasites in your food. And, she’s written a lot, about 30 books right now. And, she couldn’t believe how much it improved her skin. And, she just got it about two years ago and just raved about the Relax Sauna.


There’s a lot of well-known authors, well-known doctors throughout the United States who rave about the Relax Sauna. A lot of people who are promoters of ozone, a lot of people who are promoters of hyperbaric oxygen, a lot of people who are promoters of laser technology. There are a lot of good technologies out there. And, I was talking about near-infrared earlier. The near-infrared lasers are a nice technology and what’s funny is there’s something called a near-infrared sauna. And, people are saying the near-infrared laser, it penetrates 9 inches. Therefore, so does my near-infrared lightbulb. Yeah, a dog is an animal and a dog barks. A cat is an animal, therefore, a cat barks. See the logic?
A near-infrared light bulb is a near-infrared device. A near-infrared laser is a device that penetrates 9 inches, Therefore, the near-infrared light bulb which is a near-infrared device must also penetrate 9 inches. The dog is an animal and it barks. The cat is an animal therefore, it barks. No. a cat meows. and, I know because I have a lot of cats. And, they don’t bark. No, I’ve never had a barking cat.

So, in other words, the logic is the lasers penetrate 9 inches but the near-infrared light bulbs penetrate 1 to 2 mm. Far-infrared energy penetrates 1 to 2 inches and then it has a dynamic effect where the cell talks to a neighboring cell after 1 to 2 inches, and there's the dynamic effect. Every cell in the body experiences the effect of far-infrared energy which is the pulsating of the water molecules, the increasing of the mitochondria, creating energy, creating ATP, creating nitric oxide. The parasympathetic nervous system is being activated, the water molecules pulsating smaller. The blood cells are getting smaller, the increased microcirculation.

So, there’s a lady at the Lyme Disease Conference a couple of years ago in Boston. She has a portable sauna at her house. She’s had it for two years. She’s been in it for an hour at a time. She has neuropathy which comes along with her Lyme in her case. Not once has the little portable sauna helped her at all. I mean it helped but it did anything to end her neuropathy. She got in the Relax Sauna and in 12 minutes in the Relax Sauna, she had tingling and she had feeling in her fingers and toes for the first time in 2 1/2 years.

And, this is the difference between 98% far-infrared ray and 36%. And, this is something, when you buy a supplement and vitamin supplement has a 100 mg of vitamin C and it doesn’t do what the doctor said would do. And, then you find a 1 gram vitamin C tablet. And, you take three or four of them and, boom, it does exactly what the doctor said it would do.

So, in other words, a lot of times with the other saunas, you are under-dosing. And, that’s why the saunas sell for 2 or $300 and not $2000.


It’s just a $2000 sauna that sells on the Internet for $1300. And, if you go down to booth 407 in the far left corner of the room on the left you can try it. And, they’re having the show special only at the show. OK?

Audience Member - You said it penetrated 2 inches?

Phillip - Yeah, 1-1/2 to 2 inches. And, then, it talks to the other cells so I feel it through my whole body, I've been doing it for 18 years almost every morning for 20 minutes. I miss a couple mornings every month because perfection is not being ritualized. OK, perfection is listening and some days it says, “You don’t want to do it.” So, I don’t do it. You know, it’s listening.
(With a far-infrared lamp) You have to be right in front of it because it’s a light. Because it's a light, it’s not like heat that expands all over and you can feel it. Well, I understand what you’re saying. But, it’s like the TV remote. If you move away like this, it’s not going to change the channel. Yeah. Well, I thank you for attending the time you did. And, did you enjoy the sauna experience? He said his water molecules are still pulsating! Yes. Good, that’s what we want.

And, then, I’ll talk about the book, Detoxify or Die. Dr. Sheri Rogers is an environmental medical doctor from Syracuse, New York. And, in the 1990s, late 1990s, she ran into a lot of patients with chemical sensitivities who were, basically, left for dead by the medical industry and she experimented with far-infrared saunas, infrared as they are called right now. And, found that it gave them their life back. And, this whole book is, like, 50% of the book is all about the benefits of far infrared saunas. And, how she says it’s the only thing that she knows of that gets plastics out of the body. It’s the best way she knows of to get mercury out the body. And, if you want to use it in accordance or in accompaniment with a detox program, my gosh. It’s going to augment it.

And, so, when we go to all these holistic doctor conferences, I say that the Relax Sauna, whatever protocol you have, that you’ve got the best results, then use the Relax Sauna and you’ll get better results. If you’re an athlete or if you’re a dancer and you are a trainer of these or you have a  gym or if you are an athletic strength and conditioning coach, and you’ve got your athlete to the best possible position where they are in, now use the Relax Sauna five minutes before a workout, 20 minutes after a workout for a complete sweat and you’ll get better performance.

We were at a Colonics show in the Tampa area. There’s a guy who was with some kind of high school and they were won a home run derby contest and all these other contests. And, he got in the sauna for 20 minutes and had a great sweat. And, he wasn’t even one of the people who were projected to win. And, he ended up winning. He came back the next day and said, “I won. I think the sauna did a lot of good.”

So, we get a lot of, you know, testimonies. I was telling you about the lady with Lyme and she had feeling in her hands and fingers for the first time. We’ve had a lot of good results with people with neuropathy, people with cancer, all sorts of diseases, especially with pain and inflammation. We have people who have pain at 12 go in and one lady came out with zero pain after 10 or 12 minutes. I did talk to somebody the other day who didn’t get much of a decrease in pain and I was shocked. I was in a state of shock. I said is this really true? And, my whole belief system is being shattered. And, that’s good when a belief system is shattered. That’s good because you don’t want to be for or against any particular belief.

But, most of the time, I would say that 95, 98% of the time, people who will go in the Relax Sauna will get their pain of an 8 go down to a 4 or a 3. Sometimes, even to 0, if you have a great pain, it's really reduced greatly.


I was at Albuquerque, New Mexico at a conference called Extraordinary Technologies. And, I had a tooth pain of like a 7 or an 8. And, I was even calling up dentists to see if, on Saturday, I could find one who could do something. And, I took the lamp and I was really upset because it took about 15 minutes for the pain to go from 7 to 1. But, it really helped a lot. It really gets in there.
The cancer centers of America, don’t believe in doing far-infrared when doing chemo, but they do it afterward. But, I talked to Dr. Apkinar, who wrote the book, No Sweat, Know Sweat, and he said, “Definitely, definitely do it while doing chemo. Definitely.” And. people who have found out their hair did not fall out and things like that. You know, not everyone.


Again, but that is what I have been told. I mean, I had a pregnant lady 15 years ago, or a lady who had just had a baby, saying she did the whole sauna throughout her pregnancy and the baby came out great and I didn’t record her name. I didn’t know anything. And that was like 16, 17 years ago when I first started promoting the Relax Sauna. And, every place you hear, "Pregnant ladies shouldn’t go into far-infrared saunas." Well, why not?
Well, because you don’t want to activate the toxins. But, the cleaner the body is, the cleaner the baby is going to be. So, maybe you activate it, but then it’s going to clean it out of your body. It’s like there’s no logic behind it.

It’s like, "OK, Mom," sort of like half of a joke, “Mom, you take the ham,” and I’m pretty much a vegan most of the time but anyway, “Mom, you take the ham and you cut off a piece of it and you put it in your pot. Why do you do that?" "Because my Mom always did it, you know?" "And, well, let me talk to Grandma." "Grandma, why did you do that?" "Oh, the pot was too small.”
Gabriel Cousins did a lot of research, you mentioned there's 200 toxins in the umbilical cord. Gabriel Cousins did research. He did something with Zeolite also, but he is also a firm believer in far infrared saunas and my belief is that, if you do the far-infrared sauna regularly, you’re going to have a healthier baby. Now, the beautiful part about this and reason on I’m coming out from being hidden, because there is a Finnish study that came out about regular saunas saying that it is a myth that pregnant ladies shouldn’t go into Finnish saunas. That it’s actually, very healthy to do.

See, it’s like, again, you got a deal with all this stuff. You know, people say near-infrared is good! EMF is bad! You know, of the 21 most common household appliances, the Relax Sauna generates third-lowest, 12 inches away and seventh lowest, 1 inch away, then any of the other appliances. An iron is 10, 20 times more EMF than the Relax Sauna. A juicer or a blender, or a vita-mix blender - 7, 8 times more EMF than the Relax Sauna.


But, when I talked to Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, you know, who is promoted. He is one of the greatest holistic giants in the world on Lyme disease, on autism. He and his partner bought two Relax Sauna from us, one in July after having bought one in May at the Autism Conference. And, Daniela got into the Relax Sauna and she had had elbow pain for a year. She got in the Relax Sauna. She took it up to her hotel room and the pain was gone. She took it up the next two nights and then they bought one. And, then two months later, they bought another one. And, we have many, many other well-known doctors, you know, who bought Relax Saunas from us. But, anyway, her elbow pain went away.
So, I was talking to Dietrich and I said, “Dietrich, people carry a cell phone. See I carry a cell phone. And, then they complain about the EMF in the Relax Sauna.” And, he said, “Yeah, I know" What are you gonna do? I was at the Psychotronic‘s Convention the year before and this guy says, "It’s 100 times more dangerous"


He’s had it for 15, 16 years. He’s been using it every day. He gets rid of pain. He feels so much better. You have 1000 testimonies on people whose lives have been transformed and people still think that EMF is Voldemort‘s little brother.

You can duck your head (inside the sauna.)  We are pro-choice. We give you the choice to duck your head in or out. I have slouching classes I do every day at 3 o’clock. Because in eighth grade, they teach you not to slouch. I teach you to slouch, so you can get in lower so your head is inside.
We have a lot of mouth-to-mouth, you know, people referrals. I mean, it’s amazing. It’s, like, it's so exciting to be promoting something that helps people. I’ve hardly touched talked about the spiritual purification. I’ll probably get there in the last three minutes. Yeah, I am an 11-hour person so I always tell you at the 11th hour.
There are two kinds of heat inside the sauna. OK, every computer has a fan in it because the computer chip gets hot. In this case, in filtering out the near-infrared and the mid-Infrared, the computer chip gets very hot. So, you have a fan blow the heat off. So, there's the outside heat. But, then, the energy, the far-infrared ray energy resonating with the cells of your body causes the pulsating of the water molecules. See?


And, that causes the microcirculation. It mobilizes the lymphatic system. I think that what happens is that either the white cells, the lymphocytes in your body, are like in hibernation or inactive mode and the heat in the body activates them or maybe if births them, I don’t know. But, anyway, it mobilizes the lymphatic system and increases it tremendously. So, of anything I know to mobilize the lymphatic system, including rebounding, I think far infrared works best."