Phillip – Hello, Tashi. Can you tell us your name? And then, tell us what kind of work you do and then we want to talk about how the Relax Sauna, the Relax Far Infrared Sauna, works with hyperbaric oxygen chambers where they embrace with, well… one plus one is more than two. OK? So, you're in the Relax Sauna now. You've had one how long? And then start talking.
Tashi – Alright. Hello. My name is Tashi Lam. I'm a Qigong practitioner. And, I have my own body and energy practice in Gilbert, Arizona at wujiwellness.com if you want to find me. We specialize in integrating lymphatic, cranial and circulation of the inner Chi also. You're talking about energetics. You're talking about meridians. We do rectal therapies and multiple reflexologies. And we're also talking about moving the spinal fluid of the cranial sacral. So, integration of the holistic is what we really, really, really strive for and we educate people on, and how to integrate Tai chi, Qigong into their practice, into their daily maintenance as well as prevention. Right. So, that's what we specialize in.
Phillip – When did you start using the Relax Sauna? And how has it affected your practice?
Tashi - Relax Sauna, we’ve been using it since what, 2009 or so, 7, 8, or 9? And we’ve been using it very successfully in our practice to help our clients relax the nervous system, loosen their muscles, joints and increase the microcirculation. So, that way, when we work on them whether rectal therapy or massage, lymphatic, the body is ready. Right? So, as a chef, your job is to prep the food which makes it easier when you are ready to cook. So, we see the holistic aspect of it, how important it is to make your job easier, as well as to help your clients reach a mental and physical state to receive the deeper healing and the deeper therapy that's possible with what we do.
Phillip - And so, we are, actually, at a Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber Conference. And you live in the area so I asked you to come help educate people about the benefits of the Relax Sauna. And I thought, since you know about the energy healing and you can see the effect, you could, you know, explain why the Relax Sauna works so well with hyperbaric oxygen, either before or after, to make each of them more effective.
Tashi - Yes, because of our understanding and, too, my wife is a massage therapist, a licensed massage therapist, and we really specialize in seeing the holistic of how things connect. And one of the most frequently asked questions at this conference is, “How can I use this in my practice of hyperbaric oxygen therapy?” And they know that microcirculation is important. And they definitely know how important oxygen is. And I always tell people, “Yes, oxygen is very critical, because you can have the best food for the body. You can have the best gas for your car but if you have no oxygen it doesn't work.” And that's just the truth. Nobody can argue against that primary number. Right? So, they asked us this weekend, “How can you integrate this Relax Sauna into their practice?”
I say, well, it's more powerful. If they have a blockage, the oxygen can't get where it needs to go. So, what the Relax Sauna does, it opens up the microcirculation, increases the flow, increases the Chi, increases the oxygen flow within the lymph. When that happens and then they do 5 or 10 minutes of this, based on whatever their therapist or their doctor prescribed, then when they go into an oxygen chamber, they can take a deeper breath, their body is more relaxed. And their heart is definitely more open. And when all of that is open and circulation is flowing completely, the oxygen can do what it needs to do more in-depth, more precise, more to where it needs to go and to make the most benefits. Because if their mind still wanders, if they still have anxiety, worries, when they still have circulation issues, all that oxygen can break the traffic jam, as I call it.
Phillip - Yeah.
Tashi - Yeah. So, this one really, really does well. I call it the bookend. You come in for the oxygen hyperbaric chamber and you want to open up the circulation, open up the freeway, open up the flow of the traffic, then you give them the oxygen, which will increase it tremendously. Right? And you can take fully, the whole benefit in the chamber. The reason why you are in the chamber is, you take in more oxygen. But, if there is blockage, the mind is not fully present, all the oxygen is so busy repairing and being diluted and being not fully integrating, not fully benefiting the person because the person's mind is not there, so, that's what this chamber does. And then, afterward, after they finish the hyperbaric oxygen chamber therapy, they can come in here (the sauna) and continue the flow. And this creates the heat with the oxygen so that it can even repair deeper with the far infrared sauna. That's how it integrates perfectly. So, I close the bookend. Right? I call it the sonic sandwich. Right?
Phillip - That sounds good. Yes. Yes. Yeah.
Tashi – The far infrared sandwich and the meat is the oxygen. But, the bread's very important! That's why it's called a sandwich.
Phillip - I see. I have my own interpretation. People will think is a little corny, but I tell them about the hyperbaric oxygen chamber. You know, they have clinics and I say, “You're promoting Batman and the Relax Sauna is like Robin. And, together, this dynamic duo can do better than Batman alone. So, like, utilize Robin. He's there.”
Tashi – Yeah. Yeah, assistance is very critical, preparation is very critical. And that's why a chef always has an assistant.
Phillip – Right, like a prep cook.
Tashi – A team is more holistic, more supportive and helps everybody to do their part better. So, that way, the client benefits more.
Phillip - Now your company is called Wuji Wellness.
Tashi – Yes.
Phillip - And you are in Gilbert, Arizona.
Tashi – Yes. Wuji means One. Wuji, before we become Yin Yang, there’s Wuji. So, in the Chinese principle, and this is how I'm able to understand how this can be integrated in a beneficial way to the hyperbaric oxygen therapy, because of understanding the bowel, understanding Wuji, understanding the Yin Yang. Because the bowel is the source, the source of all universal, the source of love, the source of the God energy, the source of the I. Some people call it Other, prana, and things of this sort. And that Tau becomes the Wuji. Wuji is the one energy, which I can, also, help people understand.
And say “Hey, It's like stem cells. The stem cells can be anything. And the stem cells are intermediate between being something identical like liver, kidneys or whatever the body needs. But, the stem cells are still raw material. Because if you try to get to the bowel, the energies are not able to be utilized yet.”
Phillip – Yeah.
Tashi - So, the one energy that stem cells need to be formed first, then the body can be able to use that Wuji. But within the Yin Yang, that is the circle. What people don't recognize is the circle is Wuji. They only recognize the division, the separation. And the importance of harmony, once you become One, the harmony is already there.
Phillip – Nice. Yeah. I’m very much into the idea of Tao. There's something about the Tao I know. When the harmony is lost, then there are friends. And when the system has gone into chaos, then there are doctors. So, it's really all one.
Tashi – Yeah. But remember, when there are too many chefs in the kitchen…
Phillip - Yeah. Exactly. Nothing gets done right
Tashi – We called it Chinese Fire Drill when I was growing up.
Phillip - You called it what?
Tashi - Chinese Fire Drill.
Phillip – Right. Right.
Tashi - Everybody's speaking all at once and nobody's listening. And that's why you don’t have harmony.
Phillip – Yes.
Tashi - Yes. That's why Batman and Robin are such a great team because they work together. And you want that holisticness.
Phillip – Yes. Tell us the name of your company and your website.
Tashi – It is Wuji Wellness and it is http://wujiwellness.com/
Phillip - And all of the information about what you guys do at your clinic is on your website.
Tashi – On the website, we're mostly moving on from doing it for people, to educating them, to empower them to do it themselves.
Phillip – Of course. That's beautiful.
Tashi - We do meditation. We do Qigong. We do a lot of prevention, as well as maintenance. Because this body is an engine, man. It needs an oil change. It needs a lot of flushing. And then, you know, it also needs to be maintained and taken care of. You know, it needs to be warmed up before you do something heavy, too.
Phillip - Right. Dr. Bill Apkinar out of New York City. He’s got a book he wrote all about the history of sweating called No sweat Know Sweat. When you know sweat is your teacher and healer then life is ‘no sweat’. And he's a Qigong Master as well as an Oriental Medical doctor and a United States medical doctor and a holistic dentist. And he promotes the Relax Sauna, saying it's the only sauna, or that seems to create heat shock proteins more than any other. And you've compared the Relax Sauna to other saunas as well.
Tashi – So, the nice thing about the Relax Sauna is how quickly it warms up. When you turn it on, you don't have to wait 5, 10 minutes for anything. You feel the wave right away because it's not about the heat.
Phillip – Right. It's not the heat. What is it?
Tashi – It's not about the heat. It's about the invisible wave of the far-infrared wave. Heat helps. Don't get me wrong. But it's still about the far-infrared wave to help increase circulation. And if you really go to the root of the primary source of the healing, it’s always about circulation, circulation of the body, circulation of the mind. And together, you're able to circulate the spirit.
Phillip - Nice, so there's movement inside all your body.
Tashi - Everything and that's what makes us happy. You think about somebody such as the teenagers with the technology we have and how we sit too much. What does it do? It stops their circulation. And if you don't come out and get some natural sunlight and do earthing, what does it do? It stops the circulation because it’s not connecting you to heaven and earth. And if you don't have heaven and earth energy, there's something missing in your life. The connection to the divine source around us is missing. And when that connection is disconnected, you don't feel right.
Phillip – So, in conclusion, they can find out more about the Relax Saunas at RelaxSaunas.com
Tashi - See how you can integrate this into whatever it is you do. If you do hyperbaric oxygen therapy, investigate deeper. How to feel, this can help you with this. And it can help you enhance whatever it is you're doing for your client. So, in turn, you will enhance their therapy, their healing, in short, with such unconditional love, that it feels like… And that's what this heat's like. It feels like a mother's embrace and it's so beautiful in here.
Phillip – And, if a 14-year-old asks you, “Tashi, what's the secret of life?” What would you say?
Tashi – I would say circulation. Circulation. Don't just think about yourself. Think of others. But, at the same time, you have to think about yourself. Because if you don't love yourself, how can you think about anybody else? How can you love anybody else as completely when you don't love yourself first? It's like a flight attendant says, “Hey, put the mask on first, before you put the mask on somebody else.”
Phillip - That's one of my favorite statements.
Tashi - Oh, totally. And you should think about it every day. Say certain things like that because we forget. We are so busy. Or we watch too much TV or too much Netflix and chill. Netflix to chill doesn't really help you chill, by the way. It takes away your time and it takes away your circulation if you chill, overchill.
Phillip – Yes.
Tashi - Right. And the word chill, itself, is what? It gives you a sense of cold. And cold is what? Ice. Does ice circulate? No, it doesn't.
Phillip – Good.
Tashi – Right. So. It always comes down to circulation.
Phillip - And if a 40-year-old woman asks you. “Tashi, what's the secret of life?” What would you tell her?
Tashi - Same thing, circulation. Do a little Jumping Jack. Do a little bit of walking every day.
Phillip - Get in the Relax Sauna.
Tashi - Of course. The sauna just increases circulation so you can walk better, as well as prevent lactic acid. Or, if you fell or have some issues, just come in here. It will help open it up so the fresh material can go where it needs to go. It will clear the traffic so the raw material can help you repair your body, repair your mind, repair your soul.
Phillip - Thank you, Tashi. RelaxSaunas.com http://wujiwellness.com/ And whoever is listening to this, thank you. And we hope what we've said here has been, you know…
Tashi – Yeah. I hope we trigger something. I hope you investigate, you know.
Phillip - Great.
Tashi - Open your heart to the possibility and really, really completely. If you feel it could be better, see if this is one of the tools that could make it better for you, enhances and makes a more complete holistic practice for you that maybe you weren't thinking about.
Phillip - Thank you, Tashi. Thank you very much.
Tashi - Thank you. Good luck to everybody. And we are here to help each other.
Phillip – Great.
Tai Chi Practitioner and Lymphatic System Specialist Finds this Infrared Sauna to be a Valuable ToolRead Now
Tashi Lam, a Tai Chi practitioner and a specialist on the lymphatic system, has been using the Relax Sauna and Sky Eye Medical Grade Lamps for 10 years. He likes how it has high tech where it is needed but it is also simple where complexity is not needed. This makes it easy to maintain and clean. It also makes it very durable.
He likes that it improved him and his wife’s quality of sleep and circulation. They like to bring it with them to warm up after hiking, and also, to warm up before bed. Her hands get swollen and tight and she uses the sauna to open up her circulation. She also uses it to improve lymphatic circulation.
Phillip - Tell us your name.
Tashi - My name is Tashi Lam.
Phillip - And you've been using the Relax Sauna and the Relax Sauna Sky Eye Medical Lamp for how long now?
Tashi - Maybe 10 years.
Phillip - Very nice and you like it.
Tashi - Oh my God. it's the best out there. I like it in the high-tech way it needs to be in the chambers. And then, low-tech where it's easy to maintain, because see right here, because it's low tech. And you can turn it off if it's too hot. And you can turn it on when you want it hotter. And there's no touch screen where it will wear out on you. And a touch screen, you know, when you press it, it gets stained or whatever within a few years and then it's not the same. So, this is really nice to have and it lasts a lot longer than touch screens. And, of course, it has the high-tech in the silver lining that is in here which, to me, it's like a self-cleaning oven. So, I like the high-tech where it is. And I like the low-tech where it is, so I don't have to about breaking the screen or if you keep pressing in the same area overtime to activate it, the fingerprint stays there over time and it's not easy to get rid of it. I don't like that.
I like it like that (pointing to the control switch). I think it's amazing for what it does.
Phillip - So, what inspired you to buy the Relax Sauna? At first, I think a friend of a friend…
Tashi - No, my wife, Laura, she went to do a colonic. And, this was part of her colonic treatment. And it's a one-two-punch with the colonics and she loved it. And then, being Chinese or Asian, I don't like to pay retail, so I had to find you direct. That was about 10 years ago, when the price was a lot better back then. I’m glad I got one then. I did get a newer one and I sold the one I had to my client.
Phillip - Yes. Now, what has the sauna done for you and your wife personally that made you say, “Wow. This Relax Sauna is special and unique?”
Tashi - My wife, personally, well, besides improving the quality of her sleep and microcirculation, we took it up to the cabin up north, when we go in the winter. When it's really cold, we do night hiking and then when we come back from it, we love to sit in here to warm up. We love to use it 5, 10 minutes before bed to improve the circulation in our feet. So, it's like putting your foot in hot water right before bed. And they make you sleep better because of increased circulation.
We use it with essential oils on our chests when we have a cold. We use it in so many different ways. My wife, she's a massage therapist. Her hands get swollen and tight, and we use it to open up the circulation there for her. And then, we use it in so many other ways, too. I mean, you know, we see people, we touch people and sometimes you pick up bubblegum stuff from them. Or so, they follow you home. We use it to help clean up their energy as well as any negative energy around us.
Phillip - Yes.
Tashi - Yeah. Because it’s the Chi, this doesn't just increase circulation. It increases circulation, but it also has negative ions, which will recharge and rejuvenate. And, you have Chi transmission in here, which will make you feel more alive, especially in the morning when you first wake up. And if you live in a cold area, it will come in handy because this will wake you up.
Phillip - So, you use it regularly. Correct?
Tashi - I use it pretty regularly. Yes. Sometimes I get forgetful but not too long. And another beautiful thing about this one is my wife wants to, Laura, to use it for lymphatic drainage.
Phillip – Yes. Yes.
Tashi – And, to use 10 minutes of this, and then she goes and she puts it close to the shower. And then, a one-minute cool shower, to wash off the sweat and then she comes back in here. Do another 10 minutes. And then, she does it three or four times. And then, she never has a cold. It's great to sweat out, like if you're in a flu season. If you don't feel like getting a flu shot, you should be doing this, 10 minutes of this, one minutes of cool shower, 10 minutes of this and, trust me, you won't get a cold. It will remove the virus from penetrating deep into your cellular level.
Phillip - You're an energy consultant or an energy…
Tashi – I’m a Tai chi, Qigong practitioner, cultivator. I do energy and bodywork. And so, I have an understanding of things on that level. I am a lymphatic specialist and cranial.
Phillip - What kind of a response have you had from your clients and your wife's clients?
Tashi - They lovd it, especially those who do chemo, autoimmune disorders or circulation disorders. And as a massage therapist, if you use this before you massage your clients, this thing will loosen them up, so you don't have to work so hard to break up the knots. Because it's already, like, melted the ice, the knots.
Phillip – Yes.
Tashi – Then it’s smoother. It's easier. And you don't have to work so hard.
Phillip – Right.
Tashi - It's like preheating the oven.
Phillip - Yes.
Tashi - Right, so that's what it's great for. I can see that it's working because my nose is all running.
Phillip – Yeah. Any kind of particular incredible response that one or two of your clients have head? What have they said that impressed you that you were grateful that you could have assisted them?
Tashi - Yeah, definitely with microcirculation and higher energy, higher vibration. This also helps you with seasonal bipolar or any kind of seasonal changes that you might not respond so well to because your immune system is shot. So, this improves their immune system, to prepare them for the seasonal changes, and that's priceless. Anything that can help your immune system and your lymphatic, to us is priceless. And, of course, the microcirculation. Good help is good circulation.
Phillip - You were explaining yesterday, and you seem to have a good knowledge of the dynamics of how this works.
Tashi - Yeah. My teachers, and I'm very blessed to have had good teachers who understand. And she said that, “You need to learn how to do alchemy. You need to learn marriage things. And then, not just food, but every aspect of your life.” So, you don't want to do things that counter your practice. So, if your practice is good health, you should do things in that realm. If you don't do and go against it, then that's too much work. So, keep it simple.
Phillip – Yes. And so, you've experienced a lot of benefits.
Tashi – Oh yes. We use it. You know, people cross train, with cross therapy, in a holistic way since this is a very, very important piece of anybody’s holistic therapy session and how to integrate it.
Phillip - Great. If they wants to learn more about the Relax Sauna they can go to the Relaxsaunas.com .
Tashi – They should. There's a lot of information there. Yeah. It's great for Lyme disease. It's great for so many things and they have a list of things in there that you will see the need for. You will say, “Oh yeah that would come in handy for many to know more information on that.” Just go to that particular…
Phillip – Why does that help athletic performance?
Tashi - It removes lactic acid, which is inside you, when you a hard workout. And I recommend that you should do, like, drink electrolytes. That way you can dehydrate which flushes all the acid out of your system. And if you don't, you can also put apple cider vinegar, or you could do half white vinegar and half water. I prefer structured water if you can do. And then, you wipe yourself first. And, it might not smell good, but and you go in here and you do that, you will sweat all that out real quick. And, you alkalize your body faster, just as fast as drinking hydrogen water, I think.
Phillip – Good. Well, thanks a lot, Tashi. And, it's good to see you again. I mean we’ve known each other about 10 years.
Tashi - Totally. Yeah, it was the best phone call I made. I hope you all see how you can apply it in your life. if you have a practice, how integrate this unit into it. And being Asian, come on, it's a tax write off. I've done some accounting about that. Alright, so don't let accounting get in the way.
Phillip – Alright. And what about the Relax Sauna compared to the other saunas that you've seen or experienced?
Tashi - I love that it's portable. I love that it's only the same watts as a hair dryer. I love that I can take it with me to the cabins and it doesn't take too much room in the car, I just love the portability. And if you have guests over for Christmas or holidays or whatever, you can put it away real quick, real easy, and you can have all your space back. You don't have to worry about big heavy glass if you need to move, you know. Those wooden boxes, you have to worry about the glass screen and of course you don't want to get hit. Because if you have the heat, it's not healthy. So there's a lot of benefits. And then, if you want to, you can put essential oil on your chest for sinuses or deeper penetration of the aroma. So, you just go like this. (He ducks his nose down inside the sauna.) Yeah, and it helps. Because I do therapy, I sometimes cover my ears. So, I use the heat to relax my ears. So, that way, I can massage them easier, quicker. You know, heat loosens things up as they say.
Phillip - And it’s heat inside the body, more so than the outside.
Tashi - And also, it penetrates deep. The sauna, if you notice, it penetrates two or three inches inside. And that's how it's able to purify and release more toxins than the other units because of how deeper it penetrates. So, definitely, you want, the deeper penetration. And how quicker, the machine, there's no warmup, instant heat right away. Who has time to wait? I know I don't. I have other things going on in my life. I need to move. I need to do things. And this makes your life very efficient.
Phillip - If you would describe, in two or three or four words, how you feel after you've been in the Relax Sauna…
Tashi - Rejuvenated. You feel more alert. You feel lighter. It's very important because you might pick up, here there, there here, your clients, from people, and something might follow you home. This will help purify. It's like cleaning with sage also on an energy level.
Phillip - And after you've been in the sauna, how do you feel in the next 2 hours?
Tashi - Oh, you still have the same warmth. It's the same awakened alertness, like drinking a good cup of coffee or tea.
Phillip - Yeah.
Tashi – Yeah. And I love it in the winter. I love it more because when I'm in Phoenix, so if I can, I use the natural sun, but if I don't, I have this.
Phillip - Great, thank you, Tashi. It's wonderful to see you again and thanks for all your wisdom. I appreciate it.
Tashi - Oh, have a good day.
Phillip - Thanks.
Tashi - Take care.
Phillip Wilson and the Relax Sauna Team. Phil has been marketing the Relax Sauna for over 10 years and has owned a natural health store, Momentum98, since 1980. Phil has put approximately 10,000+ people in the Relax sauna at conventions all across America.